Upgrade PAP2 firmware

[djpohlman]

I noticed that my Linksys PAP2 is using older firmware, than what is available from the Linksys support site. Is it okay for me to update the firmware? Or will this have negative effects on my phone service. It just seems that the new firmware fixes some issues that I may be having. Can I disrupt my phone service by upgrading??

[KLH]

You probably could, but if ViaTalk wanted you to have that version of firmware, they would push it to your adapter automatically.

[chas3]

I upgraded to the latest. Linksys doesn't publish what the fixes are, but I noticed a couple things.
Before my upgrade, my cordless phone would not ring unless switching to trapezoid wave. After upgrade, it rings with default settings.
Also, I think I saw an extra echo mode setting show up.
Can't remember, but I think I had to reload the login settings and auto configuration setting after the upgrade.

[djpohlman]

My current version is 3.19(LSc), and Linksys is up to 5.1.2

Seems like a pretty big jump, why is Viatalk using such an old firmware? I know I have had a few issues, the trapezoidal ring issues with my cordless phones, and I'm still not sure my no ringback on the other end is fixed yet, wife still says it happens, but I don't seem to have a problem.

I would like to upgrade the firmware, just to have the latest with any fixes installed. Can anyone tell me for sure If I upgrade that my PAPT will re-provision, or if I need any special steps?

Thanks guys, this forum is great!

[sbradshaw]

My current version is 3.19(LSc), and Linksys is up to 5.1.2

Seems like a pretty big jump, why is Viatalk using such an old firmware? I know I have had a few issues, the trapezoidal ring issues with my cordless phones, and I'm still not sure my no ringback on the other end is fixed yet, wife still says it happens, but I don't seem to have a problem.

I would like to upgrade the firmware, just to have the latest with any fixes installed. Can anyone tell me for sure If I upgrade that my PAPT will re-provision, or if I need any special steps?

Thanks guys, this forum is great!
You'll be fine upgrading. I am a provisioned user and am currently at 5.1.2.

BTW, ViaTalk does not set the firmware version on the ATAs. What you received was factory set. No problems with upgrading, though. :)

[chas3]

I jumped from version 3 something to 5.1.1 in December. Because of sbradshaw's post, I see they are now at 5.1.2. I wish linksys would post the fixes/changes. Anyway, guess I'll update to the latest.

Before upgrading, copy the profile rule under provisioning, the rest you can get from the softphone settings on the control panel.

[fareal]

I jumped from version 3 something to 5.1.1 in December. Because of sbradshaw's post, I see they are now at 5.1.2. I wish linksys would post the fixes/changes. Anyway, guess I'll update to the latest.

Before upgrading, copy the profile rule under provisioning, the rest you can get from the softphone settings on the control panel.

I've never had to copy anything while upgrading, it seems to carry over with the upgrade fine.

[dcj65]

Do you have to have the admin login to upgrade the pap2?

[fareal]

Do you have to have the admin login to upgrade the pap2?

Yes you need Admin login

[djpohlman]

Thanks for all the input. I have now upgraded, with seemingly no ill effects.

[jandy]

I'm not super tech savvy. I'm wondering if someone could post or refer me to precise instructions on how to update my firmware.

[chas3]

To update, download the pap2t firmware from linksys and extract files from zip file.
run the downloaded exe file.
It will ask for the ip of your pap2t.
It will ask for your admin password.
I think it asked me to select the downloaded .bin file.
Then it does the upgrade. Give it plenty of time to complete.
Browse to the ip address of the pap2t to check the new firmware rev.
Then, do a power cycle. I suggest waiting til this point to power cycle so those who are impatient don't do it in the midst of a flash. Don't think the power cycle is necessary, but I like to make sure.

[Reiper]

Actually they are up to 5.1.3 for the PAP2T and 3.1.20 for the PAP2

***Changes for the PAP2T***

New Features

### Since 5.1.3-LS

- Removed Polarity Reversal from the "DTMF(Denmark)" caller-id
method. Instead added a new "DTMF(Denmark) With PR" caller-
id method that behaves the same as the old "DTMF(Denmark)"
method.

Bug Fixes

### Since 5.1.3-LS

- 5.1.x only: When doing rtp packet loopback, unit sends
encapsulated RTP packets but also normal audio packets with
the same SSRC

- Fixed this problem: Unit does not use the same Authorization
header fields in the ACK as in the corresponding INVITE,
per RFC 3261



***Changes for the PAP2***

New Features

### Since 3.1.20-LS

- Removed Polarity Reversal from the "DTMF(Denmark)" caller-id
method. Instead added a new "DTMF(Denmark) With PR" caller-
id method that behaves the same as the old "DTMF(Denmark)"
method.

-- since PAP2 3.1.9(LSc) --

. Added <Mailbox Subscribe Expires> paramter. Default is 0x7fffffff.
When Subscription to message-summary expires, SPA will
re-Subscribe to voicemail server. SPA will also honor the Expires
value returned by server if that value is less than the
configured expires value

. <Voice Mail Server> now takes a complete URL of the form:
[user-id@]hostname[:port]. You can use the $USER macro for
the user-id field which will be substituted with the
<User ID> parameter of the same Line.

Note: This change is NOT backward compatible with previous
releases, where this parameter was a "host[:port]" and the
user-id field was always included in the subscribe and was
taken from the <User ID> parameter of the same Line.
To provide the same behavior, you can add the $USER@ in front
the server's hostname.

. Allow message body with binary content in a multipart message body

. Allow g726r32 to use dynamic payload according to rfc3551. Added
<G726r32 Dynamic Payload> for setting the dynamic payload value.
The default value however is set to 2 (which is NOT a valid dynamic
payload) for backward compatible with older versions.


. Support do-not-disturb event notification. If DND is activated on
the service provider, PAP2 plays <DND Dial Tone> (new) instead
of normal <Dial Tone>. DND state is stored in the new (non-volatile)
User 1/2 variable <DND Activated> when can be manually set to yes/no
by the admin/user. The reset value of these varaibles are "no"

. Improved CAS signal timing to work better with some VTECH phones
when delivering call-waiting caller-id

. Enhancement to DND Dial Tone. If MWI is yes, play MWI stutter
tone instead of DND Dial Tone.

-- since PAP2 3.1.10(LS) --

. Distinguish between restricted and no number caller-id for
Denmark caller-id presentation

. Added <More Echo Suppression> boolean [Regional] parameter. If enabled, PAP2
will apply additional attenuation to the residual echo signal.
This option should be enabled only if the echo level is abnormally high.
Default value is no.

. Do not mix inband RTP audio when playing local ringback

Bug Fixes

### Since 3.1.20-LS

- Fixed this problem: Unit does not use the same Authorization
header fields in the ACK as in the corresponding INVITE,
per RFC 3261

-- since PAP2 3.1.9(LSc) --

. If a Tone Spec or Cadence Spec parameter has 2 segment sets and
the second set has more than one segments, the cadence may not
behave as expected. For example: 3(.2/.4,.1/4);60(2/4)
will work properly, but 3(.2/.4,.1/4);60(.2/.4,.2/4) will not

. If <Password> is blank, PAP2 will challenge SIP NOTIFY for resync/reboot
Event even if <Auth Resync-Reboot> is "no".
Expected Behavior: If <Password> is blank, SPA should never
challenge SIP NOTIFY resync/reboot

-- since PAP2 3.1.10(LSd) --

. PAP2 ignores maddr in Contact URI when receives a 300 class response

-- since PAP2 3.1.10(LSh) --

. If caller id phone number and name field total length is
larger than 52 chars for an inbound call, the phone might not
ring if caller-id service is enabled.

. PAP2 does not follow RFC 2327 and 3264 when hanlding multiple
m= and c= lines in the SDP offer. It might take the wrong c= line that
does not correspond to the m=audio line. It does not generate a corresponding
number of m= lines in SDP answer as in the SDP offer.

. PAP2 does not reply a=recvonly when offer has a=sendonly in the SDP

[jandy]

Thanks, chas3 and reiper. I'll give it a try over the weekend.

[Reiper]

Well I just tried to upgrade my Linksys PAP2 ATA and it failed... Another person posted the same result on DSLReports. However the PAP2T firmware appears to be ok. So I suggest that anyone with a PAP2 (No "T") ATA wait awhile before upgrading!

[jandy]

Just thinking about this...I was wondering if a VT staff person could ring in on whether upgrading the firmware is recommended by VT. Does VT have a schedule to "push" the new firmware to the PAP2T, our does VT assume that individuals will do this on our own? Will upgraded firmware improve call quality and stability? Thanks, in advance, VT, for your input.

[chas3]

Thanks reiper for the change log.
I just upgraded to 5.1.3 on pap2t--will post if any problems.
When I went to upgrade, I noticed linksys posted the changes for this rev. Previous revs were not documented.

What would really be great if the real manual for the pap2t were available --not just the user guide. I would like to see descriptions of all the admin settings.

[sbradshaw]

Just thinking about this...I was wondering if a VT staff person could ring in on whether upgrading the firmware is recommended by VT. Does VT have a schedule to "push" the new firmware to the PAP2T, our does VT assume that individuals will do this on our own? Will upgraded firmware improve call quality and stability? Thanks, in advance, VT, for your input.
I have heard that VT will help someone do it on request (they can do it remotely). They do not have a schedule to do this generally. They are not opposed to you doing it yourself. I have found by upgrading my firmware that it has helped with my call quality, though, from the original firmware that came with the ATA.

[jcarroll]

What is the admin password to upgrade the firmware? Is it the router password?

[sbradshaw]

What is the admin password to upgrade the firmware? Is it the router password?
It's the admin name and password of the Linksys ATA. If you do not have that, and you are a provisioned VT user, you can get that info from VT by submitting a ticket and requesting it.

HTH,

Scott

[jandy]

Thanks to all for the help. I successfully upgraded my firmware this weekend to 5.1.3 on the PAP2T. All appears to be working fine, and no settings on the PAP2T were affected or altered by the upgrade.

[WestSideRick]

I updated mine too, all went well.

Any ideas where I can find the manual for the advanced settings in the admin screens?

[chas3]

It would be really nice to get a manual for the admin settings!!! I asked Linksys and they don't think the common person needs it.

Anyone at VT able to share the manual with us? Obviously, providers would be able to get the detailed manual.

[Reiper]

I've uploaded a manual that should be pretty close... You can get it here
ftp://ftp.acewater.com/pub/ace/outgoing/pap2

[chas3]

Thanks, lots of reading.

I just found some manuals and FAQ's on the sipura.com site that has some interesting info. Gives additional info for why you might want some settings.

[WestSideRick]

I've uploaded a manual that should be pretty close... You can get it here
ftp://ftp.acewater.com/pub/ace/outgoing/pap2

That's EXACTLY what I was looking for.

THANKS!

[Reiper]

No problem! :) By the way, I'll probably have to pull it off the FTP site in the next week or so since it is actually my work's FTP Site. So if anyone else needs it, please try to get it before the 9th of February.

Thanks!

[chitwood]

How do you tell if you have a PAP2 or PAP2T? On the config page I see it is currently running firmware 3.1.9(LSc). In the top right hand corner it says PAP2, not T. But under the info tab, it says product name is PAP2T. I'd hate to fry this thing by trying to upgrade the wrong firmware.

If this helps, the hardware version is 0.1.5

[sbradshaw]

You can see what version you have on the "Info" page when you go into the web interface of the ATA (under "Product Information", "Product Name" field).

You can also look on the bottom of your device. Mine says PAP2T-NA (in really, really small print). :)

[djpohlman]

Can anybody supply me a copy of the manual?

dpohlman(at)gmail.com

[chas3]

The Sipura support site has some setting information. Just have to keep in mind that these are not exact model number guides, but gives detailed setting info.

http://www.sipura.com/support/index.htm
http://www.sipura.com/Documents/841AdminGuide1105.pdf

[localt]

Just updated my, not issues raised!

[iampedro]

Hey does your speed dial *03 work now still after your upgrade for the P2PT firmware upgrade?... Mine doesn't for some reason...

[iampedro]

What is everyone's Media Loopback Code set on under Reginal settings?

[sbradshaw]

Hey does your speed dial *03 work now still after your upgrade for the P2PT firmware upgrade?... Mine doesn't for some reason...

ViaTalk uses * codes for their speed dial. The method they chose runs a risk of conflicts with * codes in the ATA itself. When you upgraded your firmware, it introduced a new conflict with the "Media Loopback Code:" field in the Regional tab of your ATA. You will need to remove the conflicting *03 code from the ATA.

[iampedro]

Any clue what the Media Loopback Code have to offer?

[Brian188]

Any clue what the Media Loopback Code have to offer?

Media Loopback is essentially establishing a VoIP call where the media is looped back by the answering entity to the calling entity. This is typically referred to as "active monitoring" of services.

This is used to ensure the quality of transport to the edge of a given VoIP service. Short of Ping and Tracert, service providers are left without the necessary tools to actively monitor, manage, and diagnose quality issues with their service.

The Loopback adds new SDP media attributes which enables SIP User Agent Clients to initiate calls wherein the media is looped back by the SIP User Agent Servers thereby enabling the User Agent Client to proactively measure the media performance of the network. You would need to dial the code on a per call basis to initiate loopback.

I doubt that VT uses this function. This is just made available on Cisco devices so that providers have the option of using this tool to diagnose and correct sound quality issues.

[iampedro]

Hey Guys.. Currently my PAP2T was working fine and then Sunday it stopped working. Right now I can't even ping my adapter, it just times out.. What do you suggest??

[fareal]

Reboot your Router, Reboot your PAP2T, if no luck.. Call VT.

[mike770]

I've updated to the new firmware as well. No problems at all.

[Brian188]

I think quality was slightly improved with the firmware upgrade.

[SliderNC]

I see a lot of people have updateded their PAP2T-NA's successfully.

Has anyone had success updating their PAP2-NA's? That's what I have. I saw one person said it was a no-go for them.

[Reiper]

When they first released the new firmware for the PAP2's in January it was the wrong version, hence the failed upgrade. However in the middle of February they released the correct version and it works fine. I successfully updated my PAP2-NA no problem!

[jnuzzi]

I see a lot of people have updateded their PAP2T-NA's successfully.

Has anyone had success updating their PAP2-NA's? That's what I have. I saw one person said it was a no-go for them.

I have successfully upgraded my PAP2-NA to the latest version that is on the Linksys web site. No issues here.

[adrman]

Is there any way to do the upgrade via tftp? I'm on OS X and don't think a .exe file will work very well. ;)

[jnuzzi]

Is there any way to do the upgrade via tftp? I'm on OS X and don't think a .exe file will work very well. ;)

The ZIP that you download includes both the BIN file and the EXE file. I would assume that you could upgrade using tftp and the BIN file.

I am not at home right now so I cannot check the adapter to see what options are available.

[badarac]

Well I just tried to upgrade my Linksys PAP2 ATA and it failed... Another person posted the same result on DSLReports.

I just thought I'd throw in my two cents here. I experienced a problem upgrading my adapter. In my case it was related to my Vista OS. When you launch the .exe file to start the upgrade it triggers the UAC features in Vista to issue prompts to allow the program to run and another prompt for the network traffic. It seems that the adapter upgrade application doesn't tolerate waiting for a reply to the network prompt. The application "hangs" waiting for the adapter to go into an idle state to begin writing the new firmware. In this case I would cancel the upgrade and the app would issue a message that the upgrade failed.

Once I replied "always allow" to the firewall prompt and restarted the update it ran correctly. I'm not sure if this is the problem you had but if you're running Vista it could be your problem.

When I asked support about updating the firmware they said that it wouldn't make much of a difference but I was ok installing it if I wanted.

[GregM]

The software folks just aren't ready for Vista (not to mention driver issues with hardware). You have to disable UAC and the firewall to install Cisco's VPN client, but leaving UAC off causes failures installing the Adobe Reader 8.0. I'll take Vista seriously after SP1.;)

[badarac]

The software folks just aren't ready for Vista (not to mention driver issues with hardware).

I'm not sure any of us are quite ready for Vista 8)
There are a lot of little nuances that you need to get used to working with/around. I will say that my experience has overall been better than my initial experience with XP. Let's not even talk about the earlier versions. :rolleyes:

[shermanay]

I just obtained my admin/password for access to my PAP2T...
QUESTION: Is there anything I need to do before and after upgrading to the lastest firmware as I don't want my VOIP service interrupted after the update?

[fareal]

Nope nothing you have to do. I believe the upgrade software actually tells you that you will lose are your settings, but there wasn't anything I had to do afterwards to reconfigure anything. Everything just worked.

[shermanay]

Much Thanks,

Just successfully upgrade to the latest firmware without any problems.

[GregM]

Nope nothing you have to do. I believe the upgrade software actually tells you that you will lose are your settings, but there wasn't anything I had to do afterwards to reconfigure anything. Everything just worked.The warning I saw was if you reset your device to factory defaults using the phone interface because you didn't know the admin password. If you know the admin password, the warning doesn't apply to you.;)

[dcrdark]

I have been trying to do the firmware upgrade to no avail. I have put the adapter in the DMZ and even port forwarding. I just keep getting a screen that says it it is waiting for the adapter to become idle.

Any suggestion?
Thanks

[badarac]

What operating system are you running? If it's Vista see my earlier post on the same problems above.

[dcrdark]

The OS is Win XP not Vista.

[badarac]

I can't say if you might see the same symptoms on XP. If you have a firewall running it may be blocking communication to the adapter. You might want to have a look and see if that is the case. I can tell you that the upgrade app didn't like waiting for permission to be granted to write to the adapter.

[jnuzzi]

I have been trying to do the firmware upgrade to no avail. I have put the adapter in the DMZ and even port forwarding. I just keep getting a screen that says it it is waiting for the adapter to become idle.

Any suggestion?
Thanks

Is anyone using the phone?

[sbradshaw]

I can't say if you might see the same symptoms on XP. If you have a firewall running it may be blocking communication to the adapter. You might want to have a look and see if that is the case. I can tell you that the upgrade app didn't like waiting for permission to be granted to write to the adapter.

The only time I experienced this is when my computer's NIC had the Windows Firewall turned on. It kept me from updating the firmware on the PAP2T. Gave me the same message as the OP. I would check it out and see if that is the problem.

[mike770]

I also had a problem updating the firmware. However, once I shut down the firewall the update happened successfully.

[dskinner]

what is the default user name password to update the firmware? Thanks!

[fareal]

it is the admin password for your PAP2 which you must request from Viatalk via a trouble ticket

[dskinner]

thanks .. got it..updated..now no dial tone!

[dskinner]

had to switch to a new server...all working well now. Thanks!

[clarkovsaturn]

I just updated the firmware on the PAP2T from viatalk successfully today.

http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_CASupport_C2&childpagename=US%2FLayout&cid=1169671625776&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper&lid=2577643006B02&displaypage=nodata#versiondetail

or in case that doesn't work: http://tinyurl.com/2kuxss

thanks to the posters here for directions, etc. it was pretty simple. but yes, you do need to find out the admin password by submitting a viatalk support ticket.

[jepolito]

Any definite i.e. scientific observations of differences?

[sbradshaw]

Any definite i.e. scientific observations of differences?

Not quite sure of what you are asking. Are you looking for what observable differences there are in quality after upgrading the firmware?

[connervt]

I upgraded my SPA-1001 last night (2.0.13SEg to 3.1.19SE). The scientific observations:

-- The Sipura logo changed to say "Linksys";

-- One must remember to turn "ON" remote provisioning, otherwise the firmware will never load up. :rolleyes:

[DracoFelis]

I upgraded my SPA-1001 last night (2.0.13SEg to 3.1.19SE). The scientific observations:

-- The Sipura logo changed to say "Linksys";

-- One must remember to turn "ON" remote provisioning, otherwise the firmware will never load up. :rolleyes:
:D

And people wonder why I haven't upgraded my SPA-3000 past the (stable) version 2.0.13(GWg). It couldn't have anything to do with the older "version 2" firmwares (historically) being more reliable than the newer "version 3" firmwares, by any chance? :rolleyes:

The bottom line is that the newest firmware isn't always the best choice for any given situation. The newest firmware may be more reliable, or it may just bring it's own unique set of bugs to the table...

[chas3]

Any definite i.e. scientific observations of differences?

with the PAP2T I noticed improvement in ringing, where my cordless wouldn't ring with normal ring settings. Also, They added extra functions for fax settings. And added more jitter control settings.

It is annoying that linksys doesn't have a full history of all the changes.

[sbradshaw]

It is annoying that linksys doesn't have a full history of all the changes.

That and the fact that they do not publicly distribute their Admin Guide. I have one from 2004 that I was able to locate and have had for a while, but Linksys puts VOIP providers under an NDA to not distribute this guide to their subscribers. Looking at the guide, I'm really not sure what the big fuss is all about. Doesn't seem to reveal any great secrets. It does, however, allow us to understand better how the device should be configured.

[jepolito]

Not quite sure of what you are asking. Are you looking for what observable differences there are in quality after upgrading the firmware?

I was looking for observable differences as concrete as possible compared to the "I think my calls sound a little better..." type of responses ;)

[tmushy]

just upgraded my pap2-na with no problem. im running vista nad the firewall box popped up and I allowed it.

was reallly easy to do

[novavoiper]

Has anyone from VT responded to this request? I'm interested in hearing from them if it's okay to upgrade.

[sbradshaw]

Has anyone from VT responded to this request? I'm interested in hearing from them if it's okay to upgrade.

I think you can rely on the responses from VT users that it is ok to upgrade. If it was not ok, you would definitely see a lot of posts warning against it. ;)

[Agrajag]

I don't recall seeing even a single post from someone saying the latest firmware caused the stability issues or anything of the sort.

[jim]

I've uploaded a manual that should be pretty close... You can get it here
ftp://ftp.acewater.com/pub/ace/outgoing/pap2

Does anyone have this manual they could send me?

[buzzin]

i hope its because it is something different for everyone. i am extremely upset i have to call support just to get access to my device so i can configure it. i tried to reset it using the instructions included with the firmware update but the codes didnt work (****, 73738#, 1).

HOW LAME, at least with vonage I could administer my damn device without asking for mommie's permission.

[Brian188]

i hope its because it is something different for everyone. i am extremely upset i have to call support just to get access to my device so i can configure it. i tried to reset it using the instructions included with the firmware update but the codes didnt work (****, 73738#, 1).

HOW LAME, at least with vonage I could administer my damn device without asking for mommie's permission.

No you couldn't. Vonage locks all their devices and does not give the password to anyone. You can access the dummy screens which have no real settings, but you can't get to everything.

Yes the admin password to the PAP2 is different for everyone, and you must request it from VT. Once you get it you can access all areas of the configuration. But be careful.

[KC9FOI]

I agree with Brian's warning to be careful.

Early on I had tried to set up the static IP on it one day and accidentally copied the same value into all fields. I couldn't get the configuration page to open up in the browser.
Fortunately, I had downloaded the near worthless PAP2 manual from the Linksys website. The one useful bit of info that it does include is how to use the handset to reset the adapter to Dynamic IP and from there that issue fixed itself.

I imagine if you really got click-happy you could lock yourself out all together.

[buzzin]

well i am full admin of my vonage motorola device. i can change the admin password, setup static IPs, etc.

so viatalk finally emails me the admin pw to my device. i upgraded the firmware, changed the pw, set a static IP, etc.

btw, vonage sucks because they were charging $30+ per month after taxes and i got viatalk for $240 for two years. i guess they will still charge a few $ a month in taxes though...

[pooch]

I haven't upgraded yet. If anyone has, please let us know your impressions. Pooch

http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_CASupport_C2&childpagename=US%2FLayout&cid=1169671625776&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper&lid=2577637401B82&displaypage=nodata#versiondetail

[burris]

I haven't upgraded yet. If anyone has, please let us know your impressions. Pooch

http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_CASupport_C2&childpagename=US%2FLayout&cid=1169671625776&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper&lid=2577637401B82&displaypage=nodata#versiondetail

It's easy. Just do it..takes a minute..

[chas3]

question is...has anyone gone from 5.1.3 to 5.1.5 which was just released 8/21/07? They do give a description of the changes and bug fixes, but most of the terminology is somewhat meaningless to me.
Back in January, going from v3 to 5.1.3 made quite an improvement.

[Voip_Viper]

Well, I gave 5.15 a try and so far I haven't noticed any difference. Hopefully all those bug fixes will make it more reliable.

[TMPX]

Upgraded from 3 something, didn't help any of my current issues though. No CID, serious lag on connection for both incoming/outgoing. Didn't encounter any new problems after upgrading.

[ksheitz]

Just upgraded from original firmware (3.1.?LS) to 5.1.5LS without an issue. I'll report back if I notice any quality difference.

[wolos]

I have two ViaTalk PAP2 adapters. I tried to upgrade the firmware to 3.1.22 by downloading the firmware upgrade from Linksys and running the routine. It starts by asking for the IP address of the adapter. I know that my IP address for the adapters is 192.168.1.5 and 192.168.1.6. However, when trying either of these addresses, I get a reply that neither of them can be found on my network. I know that they are there and the addresses are correct.

Any ideas?

[chas3]

Check if you have pap2 or pap2t. pap2t is different firmware.