Home Network

[g0ldman]

I have a set up at my house here. We have three computers that are connected using a blue wire. We have a router dividing our internet up into three, so each computer can be on the internet at the same time, for one price. Good deal! Does anyone else have a similiar set up? If you need help to set something up like this, just ask me!

[KLH]

You would probably be suprised to see how many people have a home network. Now days almost everyone has one..

We have three computers that are connected using a blue wire.

That just cracks me up how you describe it.. :D

[g0ldman]

LOL. There's a name for the blue wire but I can't remember it. D-LL something or ever. Don't know.

[KLH]

Cat 5 maybe? Or Cat 5e ?

[g0ldman]

Yeah I just asked my bro. It's a Cat 5.

[y6y6y6]

My neighbor has an open wireless access point. I could actually use his home network to connect my network to the Internet for free.

But of course that would be wrong.

[SnakEyez]

I know I have a wireless one, but I have to give access to computers to use it. I would think your neighbor would do the same thing.

[KLH]

Originally posted by y6y6y6
My neighbor has an open wireless access point.

Have you ever told him about it? Or is it a neighbor that you wish not to talk to?
You could always leave a note or something.

[y6y6y6]

Well, I live in a multi story complex. I don't feel like going door to door. And they changed the SSID, so I assume they're smart enough to enable WEP if they wanted to.

[sxtxixtxcxh]

my neighbors have a wireless router.. not protected.
in fact, i haven't run into too many WEP enabled WAPs.
in any case, i too have a wireless router.. not protected.
i don't know why i didn't set it...

[johca]

LOL. There's a name for the blue wire but I can't remember it. D-LL something or ever. Don't know.the color wire being referred to is the CAT wire itself, which can be purchased in any colors red, yellow, orange, blue, green, and probably others, There is of course a blue wire inside the cable.

I have three computers hooked up to a router/firewall that is hooked up to a DSL modem. All three computers can be concurrently on the Internet.

[g0ldman]

That's the same thing I have.

[Tammy]

I have a blue wire from my wireless router to my modem, it goes with my blue linksys router. ;)

Wireless networks are a dime a dozen these days. In my suburban little setting in the middle of nowhere, I have access to two others run by my neighbors in addition to mine. A good place for answers to questions about networking (besides here, of course) is dslreports.com.

[vanselus]

There's 4 wireless networks I can see from my computer room - and that's in a condo complex that's mostly old divorced women.

(sad but true)

of course, a couple work at microsoft, so go figure.

[sxtxixtxcxh]

so you're saying, that THEY're at fault, being evil and all.... ;)

[vanselus]

who's evil? me? the old ladies? microsoft? well, i guess the last one's a given, eh?

:D

[fac3less]

I think you're all evil! and your unprotected wireless networks should be used and abused until people finally learn!

nah.. but I'd go door to door and knock and let them know its unprotected. They're just waiting for those kiddies down the street with laptops to install a few eavesdropping toys.

[y6y6y6]

"They're just waiting for those kiddies down the street with laptops to install a few eavesdropping toys."

Toys? Like what?

[fac3less]

We do not speak about toys here! (I do believe it is against the rules, speaking about hacking that is...) Maybe I am wrong.. but as for every other webhosting forum.. security 'advice' is good.. anti-security advice is bad. ;)

E-mail me if you'd like to talk about toys however. (not really toys, just books you can read or various sites.. ahem GOOGLE DAMN IT!)

RTFM!

[sxtxixtxcxh]

yeah, i'm afraid. god forbid the kids get ahold of the plethora of mac hacking tools and install GATOR! or COMET CURSOR! or even :GASP: a VIRUS!

[fac3less]

Damn thing doesn't like to post my messages.. anyways i'll post again..

I never said anything was wrong with os X.. nothing wrong with 'any operating system' really.. its normaly the fault of the end user.. and i never mentioned tools.. i mentioned toys.. not all of the bad people out there are 'script kiddies'.. meh.

[Dalfiuss]

I have a network setup at both my house and my parents house, just so whenever I go over there I can have wireless internet access with my laptop.

[sxtxixtxcxh]

heh.. i see what you're saying though.
you didn't mean anything about them getting on my computer.. just listening to it. which is, by the very nature of it being the internet, already public domain.

[vanselus]

Hey now, I'm not evil - I never said I tried to get into my neighbor's networks, I can just see they're there.

I'm sure none of us here would ever think about hacking into a private network. We're all upstanding members of society.

Well, except Graham. He fights dirty. Like a girl.

[vidiotscreative]

When I set up my network here, one day three new networks showed up on my system.

I had no idea what they were so I connected and it was someone elses connection. Needless to say I called our neighbor to tell him to encrypt his connection so someone on the outside cannot simply gank his Internet.

Hopefully everyone else is that honest when it comes to that kind of stuff. I know if that happened to me, I would want to know about it.

[KLH]

I only steal my brothers internet.

He knows that it is unsecure, and he knows that I can connect to it. He just doesn't think that I actually would. But what do you expect from someone who is always on dialup and needs broadband sometimes to download huge files.

But if I had to, I could always go to his house and "plug into" his home network, he wouldn't mind, and he actually gave me his house key to house sit from him from time to time when he goes on vacation.

[fac3less]

A lot of people though wouldn't help out the guy. Quite wrong.. freeloading off a corporation with OC12 is one thing... screwing end users out of things they paid for with hard earned money.. (or easily earned.. i guess) thats just wrong

[fac3less]

my recommendation would be to secure that ASAP.. but allow yourself in whenever needed. Having an open net like that is just asking for trouble.

Some random pervert wardriving who likes to look at little kiddie pics or something.. and your brother is nailed..

so better to close that loop up as soon as possible.. just a password that you both know

[g0ldman]

EEEEEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWw!!! Comet Cursor sucks!!!!!

[Fuzzylogic]

Originally posted by g0ldman
EEEEEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWw!!! Comet Cursor sucks!!!!!

So many nightmares....

[Tammy]

Speaking of nightmares, the kids sometimes download gator when they online. That has to be the most annoying software ever devised.

[fac3less]

Ahh! See thats what I was talking about in the other thing about users being security holes.

Right now one of my friends has his system on my network.. and every 3 seconds his norton notifies him of a new virus..

My system which is on the network is 100% clean.. has never had a virus either (some spyware sure, but no virus)

So what can a guy do? I mean network security isn't all too high on my priority list here - but look what someone could do with a compromised machine behind a router.. the entire network could be taken over through one machine..

argh. its so simple.. yet I do the same thing as any other 'dumb' system admin by leaving somewhat compromised machines on the network. :b

[Fuzzylogic]

Try Spybot Search and Destroy, it has an option to protect you from those applications.

I think basically what it does is just prevents those active X controls from running.


Another thing you can look into is using group policy to prohibit certain programs from running.

Now I wonder if someone maintains a list of crap programs that are in group pol format so you can just use that list to block most of that junk.


What we do at work is set our XP machines so no one can install anything. Then we have .MSI packages on the network that users can install if they need Power Point, Publisher, Acrobat Maker, Photoshop, etc.

They just go to Add Remove Programs, select ADD and it has a list of all the apps there.


It takes some time to setup, but it works well and saves us the hassle of installing every little program a user needs since they can do it as they need them.